Voron D-53233 and Voron Grad wrong front wheel track PTS 7.3 - Still not Fixed

Front wheels track are too wide comparing to rear wheels track when using single rear tire for Voron D-53233 and Voron Grad. Please fix the track of front and rear single wheels.
Note that double rear wheels track also have problems on all de-branded Russian trucks. https://forums.focus-home.com/topic/52788/most-russian-trucks-wrong-rear-double-wheel-track-pts-7-0

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@Jellyfoosh said in PTS Update 28/07/2020:

Tweaked front wheels positioning for Voron Grad, Voron D-53233 and Tayga 6436

PTS 7.1 the fix was not enough. Front track is still wider than rear. See the step-off the wheel from the pavement line marked on screenshots.

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Compare to the correct one on Tayga.
SnowRunner Screenshot 2020.07.28 - 22.15.56.60.jpg

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PTS 7.2
Please, just a little more fix to close the problem completely. It is almost there. See the screenshots above.

They are. This isn't a bug. It helps with tight turns offroad with two rear axles. But if you want it to make excessively wide turns just use an American truck.

@Mason1327
I had to change my first message. It is not good from you to mislead people.
I have double checked the pictures of the original (not toy model). And the truck is the same in front and rear. Same for Ural Next.
So it still need fixig
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@Tigron I don't know how are you able to tell anything from that low resolution photo where half of the wheels is not even visible... I feel like it's time for me to take over the investigation.

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Instead of staring at photos I searched for some technical specifiactions of the trucks and here is what I found:

  • Ural Next (Voron Grand)
    Wheelbase 4605 mm
    Back track 2000 mm
    Front track 2000 mm

Source: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Урал_NEXT

  • Ural 4320 (Voron AE-4380)
    Wheelbase 3525 + 1400 mm
    Back track 2000 mm
    Front track 2000 mm

Source: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Урал-4320

  • Ural 4322 (Voron D-53233)
    Wheelbase 3525 + 1400 mm
    Back track 2000 mm
    Front track 2000 mm

Source: http://parm.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=242

  • Kraz 6322 (Tayga 6436)
    Wheelbase 4600 + 1400 mm
    Back track 2100 mm
    Front track 2100 mm

Source: http://firedesign.narod.ru/fire_chassis/kraz/kraz-6322/kraz-6322.htm

@Amynue Thank you very much! That is exactly the pictures I was looking for.

@Tigron

That's the only pic I found from under the truck and yes its a model. However I work on heavy offroad equipment daily. Keep in mind there are a multitude of applications for the ural 4320, some are listed in Amynue's post. Tho, funny how the only site, And trust me I looked, That mentions the difference in track width he actually posted.

http://firedesign.narod.ru/fire_chassis/kraz/kraz-6322/kraz-6322.htm

for those who don't read russian

Rut of the front wheels 2100mm
Wheel of the rear wheels 2100mm

now as for the significance of this, well not much really it does give a tighter turning circle offroad, however at highway speeds rolling the tuck would be much easier. having an inset to the rear wheels does also keep them from getting caught in the front wheels ruts

This is an offroad 4320

https://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/styles/fit_1960x1102/public/images/news-article/carousel/2016/01/e18fdeac0239b1d697bba048656f2105/img_8524.jpg?itok=1IIOKAkF