I don't have to imagine any of this I've shot and zeroed AR-15s and bolt action rifles with horizontally offset optics.
Well, what can i say, your examples above show only a few out of hundreds of different weapons and aiming sights and technically they are not good concepts or designs.
The concept works. Its repeated historical use and ongoing use would disagree with your argument.
The fact you weren't familiar with this prior to this thread really undercuts your credibility.
You can zero any sight hortizontally and vertically. I understand your point, no need to be rude ! But you can zero that sight horizontaly to only one specific distance.
Yea. And anything inside that distance would result in a hit slightly to the right. The sights on the Bren gun for example are mounted ~1inch horizontally to the left of the bore axis. Zero that weapon to 300m and fire it at a 150m target: your impact is ~0.5inches right of your gunsight. So 1-300m your horizontal "margin of error" is 0.0 - 1.0 inches ... this is acceptable for a military firearm. Zero the rifle to 600m and the "margin of error" is still 0.0 - 1.0 inches for 1-600M. This is negligible. Do you understand this concept? An error so small it effectively doesn't matter for a rifle that on average shoots 2-4 MOA?
Not sure how old you guys are and how much experiance you have with real weapons...
I'm 30. I've been shooting for 15 years in the US and Canada as a civilian, and with members of both country's police and armed forces on private ranges.
I don't normally feel the need to discuss this online but you've chosen to insinuate something else.
All i am saying is that the concept of mounting a weapon sight left or right of the barrel line is causing extra deviation which has to be calculated and compensated.
It's an AK, not the space shuttle.
I personally would NOT go into a battle ( where my life and my comarades lifes depend on the precision of the used weapons ) with a weapon sight that not only has to be corrected in vertical line depending on the distance of the target, but also additionally in horizontal.
You won't go into battle, that's why you play Insurgency.
If by some miracle you ever did and found an AK with a dovetail mounted OKP-7 lying on the ground you'd be a fool not to pick it up.
I don't know what kind of FBI Hostage rescue scenario you've imagined the OKP-7 was designed for, but it was meant to shoot deer, and then the FSB decided to stick in on their AKs, and those guy's aren't exactly known for getting all the civilians out alive.
Like I said earlier: its alright that you've never seen the OKP-7 sight before, and you've never seen a rifle with a horizontally offset optic before, but please use google before making a thread about how they are "not logic".
Oh man, the stereotype about certain nationalities and precision engineering seems true.
(As well that they shouldn't be allowed firearms)