@amurka said in Marksman and Bolt actions:
@kean_1 Oh really? The M24 is still being used by the Army? lol ok, I mean that's technically correct (if you count a modified and upgraded M24 as still being an "M24"... Here's some information I had to provide to another guy who was arguing the same shit you are. The Army, (like almost every other fighting force on the planet) has been looking to phase out its bolt action snipers with semi-auto snipers that excel in far more varied situations.
The M24 is horribly outdated and almost never used. It's decades out of date.
Well, army is not the only force that uses weapons. And in game we are, after all, a security force, not US military.
... Here's some information I had to provide to another guy who was arguing the same shit you are.
Bolt action rifles are still more superior to semi-auto at long ranges and can use wider range of loads. At least some of them.
And that part about replacing stuff in army - it does not work like that. They may be wanting to replace something, but "want","can" and "will" are different things.
"The Army, (like almost every other fighting force on the planet) has been looking to phase out its bolt action snipers with semi-auto snipers that excel in far more varied situations" since the WWII but it did not work out so far. Unlucky heh?
Every Job has a proper tool. Show me a guy at a long range contest(and Im speaking about 800+ meters), for example, who professionally shoots with a semi-auto rifle. You ll have a hard time searching for such a man. Reason - semi auto "sniper rifles" are not sniper rifles at all. They are called DMR (designated marksman rifle) trying to be mobile and accurate at same time, but in the end its just a secondary weapon in a sniper pair and a support weapon in a squad.
So back to the m24(variants) replacement rifle:
(Lol, if you ll search it in google it says DMR all over it.)
-"The G28 is designed to provide accuracy of 1.5 MOA." (from your article)
Btw basic version of this rifle(HK417) is in service since 2005 in Germany, so its not that new.
-M24. According to Remington Arms each rifle is tested to meet (and typically exceeds) the requirement to fire ≤ 1 MOA (less than a 2-inch shot group at 200 yards) before being released for fielding. (from wiki)
So this old mammoth is more "accurate" than a modern "sniper rifle" as you call it.
In March 2018, the Army announced that a version of the G28/M110A1 would be issued to infantry squads as the service's standard Squad Designated Marksman Rifle (SDMR). Issuing a 7.62 mm SDMR is meant to increase individual squads' ability to defeat enemy body armor that standard 5.56 mm rounds cannot penetrate. The M110A1-based rifle will replace the M14 EBR(its not replacing m24 variants), in use by the Army since 2009, but because it was based on an operational needs statement it had to be turned in by units at the end of a combat deployment. Unlike the sniper configuration, the marksman version is fitted with a simpler rifle optic instead of a telescopic sight to make quick adjustments between 0-600 meters, and it fires M80A1 Enhanced Performance Rounds rather than sniper rounds; it will be fielded with a suppressor to make the marksman less identifiable with louder 7.62 mm rounds. Roughly 6,000 are planned to be fielded with one per squad in infantry, engineer and scout formations starting in late 2018. (wiki)
So, you say, that rifle(g28/m110 variants), which complements bolt action rifle(m24 variants) in sniper pair, as a support weapon for the sniper pair, is supposed to replace the main sniper rifle(with potentially more punch and higher accuracy)?
Well that is just dumb at this moment in time. And bolt action rifle will not be replaced until semi auto will start achieving same long range accuracy results.
P.S. Judging your google skills and common sense in general, I decided to tell you, that MOA is not a bird in this case.