Mutton Chops

Seriously, when was the last time you saw someone with mutton chops in the real world? Hey NWI, the year isn't 1850. Just because RS2 includes them doesn't mean you need to.

last edited by Tooth Decay

@tooth-decay exactly...imagine an ISIS fighter with mutton chops or some other retarded customization option they have in this game.

The cosmetic customization is horrible. There must be an option to turn it off.

Now they are adding tattoos. Because it is totally "authentic" for rebel fighters in the middle east to have tattoos...-.-

Come on guys. This game doesn't want to be a simulation. It's a video game after all.

last edited by Benny

Don't take away my mutton chops. You will not take away my right to make my Security soldier look like this.alt text

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@Benny I’m so tired of hearing this. Insurgency is meant to give a realistic depiction of a middle-eastern conflict. It should look authentic. Not Arma levels, but still several clear steps ahead of games like Battlefield. That means realistic gunplay, more teamwork, real life camouflages, and most importantly, NO RICICULOUS LOOKING MUTTON CHOPS. I DON’T KNOW WHY PEOPLE FEEL A NEED TO DEFEND EVEN THE MOST STUPID ASPECTS OF THIS GAME.

last edited by Tooth Decay

Can we get this style in the game please?

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@MAA_Bunny
Yes dude ! That is an awsome beard !

Comon guys, all these beards and outfits just help people to identify friends. Nothing to do with reality or simulation or whatever.
We all want to be unique and this is a funny way to have a unique constellation of equipment and looks.

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This is all funny stuff guys, enjoy 😉
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@tooth-decay said in Mutton Chops:

@Benny I’m so tired of hearing this. Insurgency is meant to give a realistic depiction of a middle-eastern conflict. It should look authentic. Not Arma levels, but still several clear steps ahead of games like Battlefield. That means realistic gunplay, more teamwork, real life camouflages, and most importantly, NO RICICULOUS LOOKING MUTTON CHOPS. I DON’T KNOW WHY PEOPLE FEEL A NEED TO DEFEND EVEN THE MOST STUPID ASPECTS OF THIS GAME.

First of all, I don't defend anything Captain Capslock. Secondly, those beards doesn't bother me at all.
The game needs improvments on different occasions which are way more important for the gameplay and long term motivation.
I don't understand why people are complaining about these little things.

@tooth-decay said in Mutton Chops:

It should look authentic. [...] That means realistic gunplay, more teamwork, real life camouflages, and most importantly, NO RICICULOUS [sic] LOOKING MUTTON CHOPS.

Most importantly? You need to get your priorities in order. And gunplay should not be just realistic; gameplay comes first. It's a game, not a simulator.

Also, automatic spell check might have worked if you weren't typing in all caps

@cyoce Have you ever considered the possibility of a game not being a milsim yet still having realistic elements and having more arcade game modes while still being much more hardcore than Battlefield? Because that is the whole point of the Insurgency franchise. Not having silly cosmetics like pink glasses and mutton chops is part of that authenticity. I don’t know why people like you defend that stuff, it’s not like they have any significance towards the gameplay (which you used as an excuse for silly cosmetics).

I’m also glad that you were able to pick up on a typo. Does it add anything to the conversation? No. Does it make me look bad? No. Does it make you look smart? No, in fact it makes you look dumb for trying to discredit me by pointing out a typo. But I still think you deserve a pat on the back for that one.

@tooth-decay said in Mutton Chops:

@cyoce Have you ever considered the possibility of a game not being a milsim yet still having realistic elements and having more arcade game modes while still being much more hardcore than Battlefield? Because that is the whole point of the Insurgency franchise. Not having silly cosmetics like pink glasses and mutton chops is part of that authenticity. I don’t know why people like you defend that stuff, it’s not like they have any significance towards the gameplay (which you used as an excuse for silly cosmetics).

I’m also glad that you were able to pick up on a typo. Does it add anything to the conversation? No. Does it make me look bad? No. Does it make you look smart? No, in fact it makes you look dumb for trying to discredit me by pointing out a typo. But I still think you deserve a pat on the back for that one.

You don't understand it. What @cyoce and I mean is that the gameplay itself is most important for a game. Nobody is defending anything. In fact I can agree on some point, that insurgence can look stupid whith certain items. But that's not a big deal.
Sandstorm wants to be realistic and authentic. That's cool. I totally support that. That's why I play this game. But saying that cosmetic items break the whole immersion of the game is just ridiculously exaggerated.
As I said, in the end, long term motivation for playing a game comes from the gameplay itself.
You can like or dislike e.g. CS for what it is, but you have to admit, that the game has been successful for almost 20 years. That's mostly because it gives players a balanced and fair gameplay which they can improve and put in hours of learning and improving.

@benny , @tooth-decay

I have worked with several people who look like those pictures. Is nobody living in an urban area here? Hipsters anyone? Tattoos? These beards and other stuff is actually not too unrealistic. In a organized military squad it is sometimes a dresscode, but in special forces it is also a certain degree of f--- the rules kind of mentality because those kind of people do whatever they like. Anyone seen the movie Zero Dark Thirty? It's been praised for being one of the most realistic movies depicting the takedown of Usama. Have you seen the beards on those guys? You don't like beards, fine, you mean it is unrealistic? Actually I think you have no idea, its not all shaved 19-year olds.

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last edited by Pacalis

It is currently quite tight regulations, but the exceptions still exist=)

Quote: "Beyond issues surrounding discipline and standards, there are also legitimate concerns about beards getting in the way of gas masks designed to protect troops in chemical attacks. This is part of the reason most soldiers are not allowed to have beards.

But the overall policy is still determined on a case-by-case basis, it seems. Some special operations troops involved in the War on Terror, for example, have been allowed to grow beards to blend in with local populations (though this has had mixed results).

Since World War I and the advent of chemical warfare, which brought with it the need for gas masks, beards have largely been banned across the U.S. military."

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EDIT: Realistically, it should be prohibited because of hygiene and beards getting in the way of gas mask. Gas mask + beard = gas in lungs.

SOURCE:
https://www.newsweek.com/top-us-military-officer-says-beards-arent-professional-calls-facial-hair-794170

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@tooth-decay
I think you're reading too much into what I said. I was just criticizing that you deemed cosmetics (or lack thereof) more important than actual gameplay mechanics, although I don't see the harm in letting people have a little fun customizing their characters.

As for the typo comment, I was making fun of your excessive use of all caps; you just happened to give me a typo to work into the comment as well.

@mohdak said in Mutton Chops:

@tooth-decay exactly...imagine an ISIS fighter with mutton chops or some other retarded customization option they have in this game.

The cosmetic customization is horrible. There must be an option to turn it off.

Now they are adding tattoos. Because it is totally "authentic" for rebel fighters in the middle east to have tattoos...-.-

Insurgents always have their face covered though, right? (in the game I mean)

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