Macragge's Honor Point Change?

I'm playing the Imperium campaign on Hard difficulty. When I played it on Normal, the Macragge's Honor was roughly 600 points. Now it's about 1100 points (the fleet it spawned with was 1200 points, which included the 2 escort frigates which were 47 points each). This makes it pretty much unusable, since that leaves me with only enough for 1-2 ships even in the endgame.

Is this a bug? A points cost change with the patch? A difference in point costs between normal mode and hard mode? Anyone who's played both difficulties and can shed some light on this would be much appreciated.

I'm on hard but got it before the patch and it's still 600 ish despite the patch affecting everything else

I got it after the patch in normal and its also 1100 points, so nothing related to difficulty. I tried to modify its price editing the "UnitStatsOfficial.csv" file but it didn't have any effect ingame. Luckily I was able to increase the fleet limit so now at least I can use a pair of battleships with it.

I'm not that far in the campaign now, since I paused mine because of all the bugs I'm waiting for to be fixed and the missing features to be implemented... But yes, I've read quite often from people bitterly complaining about that crazy price increase, that is not related to your difficulty level. The ship is almost unusable with that price and fleet limit. No idea what the Dev's thought when they where doing this, but I really hope it gets heavily reduced again. What's the point of giving the player access to such a ship as reward, if it's so expansive that you will/can not us it?

@mystic_taboo said in Macragge's Honor Point Change?:

I'm on hard but got it before the patch and it's still 600 ish despite the patch affecting everything else

Be careful. My old AdMech ships I already have build before the patch are also still labeled with a lower price, but when I try to deploy them to battle, they also use the new increased price! Result is, that there are less ships spawned into the battle than I expected. So I would guess your Macragge's Honor is also 1100 points for you to deploy, even if it's displayed with 600 points. That is totally weird and I hope it gets fixed soon. It's unacceptable that my save games get corrupted every time some prices are changed in a patch. Do the Dev's really expect me, to restart my campaign with every update? 😣

I made a thread about this bug here

And someone else also made a thread about it in the steam forums

Thanks! That's pretty much what I was afraid of, but it's still good to have confirmation. Hope they change it back soon!

I'm far enough along and not having too much trouble. I guess I'll just try to power through. I play the campaign with pure battleship fleets and no urgency meter, so it's not all that bad once they're all leveled up. Not looking forward to clearing that last Chaos sector while being effectively being down a fleet though...

Nope, it's definately still six hundred points in my hard game (urgency on, mixture of domination and cruiser clash), just did the last mission (very easy and boring) against abaddon and my fleet is capped at 1600/1650 and had three battleships (Oberon, 2x Retribution) and McCragges Honour deployed.

@mystic_taboo said in Macragge's Honor Point Change?:

Nope, it's definately still six hundred points in my hard game (urgency on, mixture of domination and cruiser clash), just did the last mission (very easy and boring) against abaddon and my fleet is capped at 1600/1650 and had three battleships (Oberon, 2x Retribution) and McCragges Honour deployed.

Thanks for that information. That's makes the bug related to old save games and changed ship prices even stranger, if it did not occur for you and Macragge's Honor...

But let's hope the Dev's will hear the noise and lower that ship price again. It's a shame if I have to mod the game by myself, just to make it realistically usable...

In the deployment phase (little cog) in the bottom left does it come up as 1000 on yours?

I did get a bug where my fleet did not fully deploy.

In fairness McCragges Honour is worth much more than 600 points - it's pretty much unbeatable, probably is better than two battle barges.

Is this what you are talking about? My point limit for the fleet deployment is 1125 at the moment. But as you can see, one old AdMech Tyrant is shown with 206, a new one with 221. And the old AdMech Lunar is still 195 instead of 215. So those should be the reason, why afterwards a ship is missing:

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For Macragge's Honor: Like I said, I haven't seen it myself in campaign now. But I read a ton of comments by players, that 1100 points is totally overpriced. Especially since you almost can't send anything else... I think the leadership limit that the end of campaign is 1600, so that makes sense.