@zamal Yeah, some sidetracks were..sidetracked...
@Unster One last piece: I went through the book and allowed side angle is (obviously) influenced by type of addon (duh), but for example for floating bridge it was up to 30°.
Picture from testing with road panels (up to 20°)
And as a cherry on the top, one of prototypes was modified by the wish and sent to Soviet Union, looks familiar?
I've never heard about Tatra being extra sensitive to rolling over, but you can tip over anything with (or without) enough skill.
Those special (stripped down) trucks are not exactly best sample, but if you hit YT with something like "T813 truck trial", you can see really crazy angles. And some stucked and some rolled over of course Make your own picture
I don't want to post them here, because we are OT enough already...
And it provides good contact off road, but also it has some cons on road...
Agree on WS.
Most of those trucks looks too modern to me, but... Depends on the rest of the game. I prefer older machinery and not exactly military. For some reason ex-military trucks in civil use are somehow fine to me
I was refering to that vid I've posted, there is T813.
You can't see that wheel camber anywhere else, because that is Tatra patented construction
Also there is not well known fact, that wheels are not aligned on one axis on axle - due to central tubular "frame" that contain differential wheel on one side is few centimeters further than on the other.
Here is some vid for better understanding, it is new model, but construction principle is the same for decades...
Point of that vid was terrain, not opening question of tracked vehicles (except of one Bat-M I don't need then either)
On the other hand, as @Unster said, they are poor on roads, so maybe that could bring some gameplay, if you need them to get somewhere, but can't go to the area on its own, so trailer needed... you know the stuff
If I see it correctly, its radiator grill says "Volvo"...
I don't count "K's" into discussion, because those are obviously offroad specials tractors, so they definitely ARE capable, to be completely honest, I think they are a bit better than K-700...
WS I see as a quite weak. IDK if it is undermined by poor traction in game and is better IRL, but regardless of traction, I see it suffer by low clearance and long wheelbase. Not suited for that road in that vid again
But west seems to be flatter and with more infrastructure, so it doesn't mind...
P.S.: T813 rocks!
I am 100% sure it can handle its enviroment - it is in production, not a crazy prototype.
Problem is likely in what each of us see as off road capability.
For example I don't see this as any crazy trial but just any forest road you can met, when doing some logging (for example).
But I doubt that truck can handle it. Or any other truck from US I've seen so far in game. Same for common road trucks of europe or more eastern places. You need AWD for sure, but AWD on its own is not enough...
On the other hand, it is just my personal opinion, I am not trucker (so far) and don't know a ja****it about US truck production in general. I am just thinking out loud so I can be wrong quite happily
Not necessary of crazy trails or rock climbing, but maybe I am thinking about "off road" in wrong way. In my mind it is not "non tarmac surface" but "whatever nature can throw at you" so bumps and horizons are definitely part of it.
Each vehicle need some sort of "road", flat is by my measures just a too much to expect
Sorry, English is not my mother language so I might twist things a bit
Neither is mine, so don't worry
I didn't understand this part.
That is simple:
Because of this...
...it is easy to get stuck like this...
Difference is, that soviet "extra long trucks" have so many wheels, they are basically tracked. It is still problem with turning radius, but chance of getting stucked as described above is reduced...
I see it now.
Maybe that is not exactly "variety", maybe more like "reasonable map design".
I understand, I also like maps those make more sense than standard "you and some trucks in the middle of nowhere".
Some basic infrastructure (falling apart), two villages with broken bridge inbetween them... Yeah, I think we are in sync now
But I am curious what maps we'll get.
For example, that 8x8 everybody saw on those very few "leaked" pictures.
My brain simply refuse to admit that as offroad vehicle - it is longer than week before paycheck and that unsupported belly is simply built to be beached...
@deathcoreboy1 On a one hand, I agree, on the other, try to make something (a PC game for example) completely universal and for everybody and you'll end up with a product that has everything and is really good at nothing...
I hope for the same game in its core with improvements and enhancements, not for competition for ETS/ATS...