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@VoodooMike said in Every Champion Ladder without changes is a wasted season:

IMO it is not fair enough. Given that people complain about unfair match-ups, it sounds like plenty of folks also don't think it is fair enough. For people who snidely say things like "get better at the game" it's funny that they fear a system that would make matches more difficult for them.

People who wants to play in a "champion" league where everybody is 50% winrate ?

There are rookie leagues, stunty leagues, anti-bash leagues, garbage leagues and if it don't anybody can create his league ....

@VoodooMike said in Every Champion Ladder without changes is a wasted season:

Give him two... or whatever.

I don't want to have two queens, i don't want to beat Spartako 50% withe a free Morg and Thorg. If i can beat Kasparov one day one game I want to remember it and telle my child.

In your system you would win the better players 1 of two, how boring imo...

@VoodooMike said in Every Champion Ladder without changes is a wasted season:
That's the intellectual stumbling block folks like you have - you try to transplant records made in a regular environment into full TVPlus, and that's nonsensical -

Thank you to care about my intellectual misery :-).

I just find the TV++ really sad : everybody at 50% and an algorithm says us who has won ?
That system seems to me an intellectuale quest of perfect justice which :

  1. will never be reached
  2. is not fun to me.

@VoodooMike said in Every Champion Ladder without changes is a wasted season:

Rez does not boost bash, it boosts agility.

I agree I should have wrote "appart from rez and aging"

@VoodooMike said in Every Champion Ladder without changes is a wasted season:

Heh, your theory is that agility teams are used to being wrecked so they don't mind? If that were true we'd see more of them than we do in places like COL.

It's not theory it's real : we NEED the CPOMB CW to die sometimes as we also NEED the ST4 AG5 WD to really fear death. Both.

I think the balance of the game needs it, appart from rez or ageing again.

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TV ++ vs TV+

Better coaches have more chances to be the underdog
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They get a real bloat with FF
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Inducments are usually considered overprized

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IMO this is about fair enough, like said a wise man "If you suck at the game, get better."

The whole compareason with chess and ELO is a waste : Elo protect you a bit in the last rounds of a tournament but you should see what really is the "swiss system" and in all cases it doesn't give you any protection in a champ !!

Should Kasparov have given a second queen to the opponents ? I don't think so, it would have killed the game's interest. Who wants Kasparov with a 50% win/rate ? What pleasure to beat him with two queens ?

For VodooMike : how far would you get ? A coach with a 30/0/0 record gives 1500TV of inducments to a coach with the same TV but wirh a 10/10/10 record ?
If we follow your thoughts that would be the most fair, isn't it ?

For the healing part

It seems to me that most of the systems proposed would be a boost to the more violent teams : at least in the actual system they can die sometimes, specially with the "5 concessions max" rules. I would down it to 3 if it was me...

Other teams are used to die a lot so i don't see it as a big issue anyway.

Rez or ageing is fine too as long as it is optionnal.