Okay. 1 week as the only recent post on entire General Forum. No reply at all. Jesus, guys... very disappointing.
I dont get you, DontNod... this radio silence. Its a fucking vampire Game. And your game is utterly bloodless outside of biting cinematics. Upon using Blood Cauldron on low health enemies they blow up into small body parts but before these parts even land...they VANISH into thin air. Not even an F'ing spatter remaining where the dude that exploded stood.
No scarring after hitting and biting people in combat. No dismemberment, no bite marks on their necks in combat. Jesus... you can't even blame it on budget either since there are games that are pushing 15-20 years that have done this infinitely better. Because why wouldn't they? Vampire Genre.
This is unfathomly low effort design and you charge us full price when vampire games that are freaking almost 20 years old have done this better.
All I as well as many others SIMPLY wanted to know is "why... you didn't bother?" considering its a VAMPIRE game. Just why... your Vampire game is utterly devoid of blood in your forced combat. But no.
GG, DontNod... Design choice for reasons I would disagree with but understand. But this silence when your forums are almost completely dead?...And for MONTHS at that...
At least I have fond memories of Remember Me. A game where you actually put effort into the main activity of a video game = THE COMBAT.
I made a post months ago. Many other did. Reviews on steam highlighted this. Huge threads raged about this. And you've been 100 % silent. So here I go again... 1 final time hoping I can get through otherwise I'll give up and keep my money.
Are there plans to fix the gore? Will you be releasing gore DLC? That makes wounds appear on enemies? Dismeberment happen? For Blood Cauldron ability to actually make the exploded body parts REMAIN ON THE GROUND....
Are you gonna fix this total immersion breaker and ludacris design decision from the perspective of a VAMPIRE game in 2018. ?
Or are you just gonna keep the game the way it is and accept what comes?
Whats keeping me from playing this title is the bad combat. But not just because you ignored deflection, blocking, counter attacking and alike. No. I was prepared to NOT do this.
Because I figured at least the kills will be gory, monster like and satisfying.
99 % of them aren't, dont nod. I give 1 % to Blood Cauldron because I actually see body parts but the limbs dont even remain.
What the hell is going on? .... Can you please answer why you've either chosen not to make the gore more extensive (and realistic feeling. Its a pure slaughter yet bodies are always intact, clean and every kill feels Zzzzzzzzz ) Or... if its simply beyond your capabilities as a dev due to financial constraints or pegi rating?
Please give me answers. Because I was hyped about this game EVER SINCE you told us about it. I'm a mega vampire fan and enjoy this games story aspects. I love the writing and monologue.
But your combat.... ruins the entire experience. And some "story mode" where enemies are weak and ez wont fix that for reasons I've already stressed.
Can you please just tell me what happened? I dont even care at this point if the answer is " yeah its coming" or "No we chose not to" Just give us an answer as to why a 20 year old game called Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines has better gore than your vampire game in 2018.
You rarely ever reply here but I'll try. 1 final time otherwise just.... whatever.
Why is the blood and gore SO extremely lacking? Its a total dealbreaker for me considering its a vampire game and I hate this feeling.
Edit: I can see you BARELY get any messages at all on your forums. If you dont have time to reply to this, knowing there are barely any threads at all... that'll be staggering.
Gore system expansion and improval concerning the combat system and NPC's you kill in combat only.
---Dismemberment = heads, arms, legs etc. Would be fitting when killing with vampire claws especially.
---Blood spatter that sticks to NPC's in combat ( not just the floor)
---Visible wounds upon dealing damage to enemies like scars, cuts, bleeding wounds. Senuas Sacrifice did this well. ( including an impaled wound from vampire powers)
---Bite marks on NPC's ( same that appear during civillian biting)
---Blood that sticks to your weapon upon using it
Hey guys. You're very silent on specific questions in terms of what the game has and doesn't have.
However, can you answer if the game has modding support or will have?
It would be nice if we could get the chance to mod in blood, gore etc to make the combat system far more interesting for those of us who enjoy embracing the monster type of gameplay.
Alternatively, consider releasing a gore DLC. have limbs fly off, heads, guts and wound damage on generic enemies.
PLEASE consider it. I really like all I see about this game, but the combat feels like something I'd rather avoid... because theres just no visible damage or conclusion to cutting, shooting, ripping, biting, or using super vampiric powers impaling them.
Its incredibly lackluster visually, guys. Please consider fixing it via gore DLC or allow mod support so we can alter a few things to our satisfaction.
Yeah, man. I hope we'll get an answer otherwise we'll just have to wait for release.
But the more I see I think we're gonna be without any of it.
It just feels extremely... weird. I mean you can look at way older gory games like F.E.A.R. that Im replaying atm. It has whole bodies exploding on grenade impact or something as simple as bullet holes as well as blood spatter.
Or within the same genre, Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines had a great deal of gore using Tremere abilities.
But anyway. I just felt this was as baseline as it gets for a vampire game. ( Unless its DARK because that game lacks everything haha... Fck I hate that game. Geralts voice can't even save it )
Well. Tuesday the week after next week, we'll know. Lets hope for a gory adventure.
I'm watching gameplay video after gameplay video and even the most recent one didn't quell my worries on this matter.
As a huge fan of the entire witcher franchise, I enjoy satisfying realistic-esque combat where if I hit someone with a sword I expect to see a wound. Or limbs fly off or the like.
CDPR kept innovating every release till Witcher 3 gave us a gore portrayal that never ceased to amaze during every encounter. From excellent slow-mo finishers to just watching the enemy have his torso sliced in half or arms cut off.
Now I look to Vampyr. A vampire game that looks so dark, so grim, so bloody ( as you'd expect) to carry on this cool feel.
But after having seen the latest gameplay dev session on twitch today... I once again began worrrying.
DontNod. Will your gave at all feature dismemberment? Will bodies after we defeat enemies feature physical damage marks? Torns limbs? Guts spilled?
Basically pure brutality and what you'd kinda expect after hitting someone in the face 5 times with a bonesaw.
Edit: I watched some additional footage and realized that there is actually no blood at all present on the guys we fight. No matter the gun, bonesaw, vampiric abiltiies. All hostile NPC's are 100 % intact and clean. Bite marks, and such happens solely during cinematic kills on specific NPC's apparently. I've seen all your released gameplay dating back months and still every fight, the only blood that appears is from impact which lands on the ground. And thats the end of it.
Is this an early build? Or have resources just not been invested into these combat system factors because most combat can be avoided using stealth and such? I'm getting a grim reminder from the vampire game DARK here.
Some players might not think this is a big deal but it is a HUGE deal to me. I like to have a satisfying combat system where damage is apparent on me or the enemies. It feels satisfying and realistic.
I hope to get a reply. And I really hope furthermore that the game actually has this on release. It could be a dealbreaker for me personally to not have this. Especially considering 5 things:
Nr 1: Its a vampire game
Nr 2: Its packed with blood and death everywhere. NPC's with wounds, gory deaths and such lay all over.
Nr 3: You're literally cutting people up with a bonesaw or sword. That is pretty damn brutal.
Nr 4: After witcher 3's substantial success in visual design its obvious that such showing of gore would fit right in here.
Nr 5: You are a monster. You're not some shining knight or duelist. You are a monster...that tears people apart and feasts on their blood.
True blood, The originals, Vampire Diaries and countless other supernatural / vampire series have gone out of their way to magnify just how brutal vampires are and people LOVE IT.
So I hope Vampyr will live up to that baseline requirement. In my humble opinion, of course.
Fellow fans, feel free to disagree. I just want to feel like the monster that the game keeps assuring us we are.
I mean hell, go play skyrim default, and then install the dismemberment mod afterwards and play werewolf.
You feel a thousand times more vicious and dangerous. And seeing NPC's fleeing from you in fear suddenly makes perfect sense.... because nobody wants to have their body torn in half by a monster.
So yes. Summary: Dear DontNod. Does your game have Dismemberment, wounds, even blood marks or spatter on NPC's post battle etc? And if it doesn't, will it have later as a DLC option or something? It feels extremely plain and innocent right now... not what I'd at all expect from a vampire game.