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For anyone who hasn't seen this video comparing sway between SS and Insurgency.
Youtube Video

I think the biggest difference in feel between SS and Insurgency is the new sway mechanic. The sway while fatigued or suppressed is far greater in SS and makes aiming far too difficult.

There's two main reasons why I think the system should be reverted back/changed to more closely resemble the last game:

The TTK in SS is greater than in Insurgency, which means that shots should be easier to land to compensate. Insurgency, with its lower sway, allowed you to land more shots effectively even with 1-2 hit kills. With Sandstorm, it feels you are spraying while the gun sways/recoils everywhere while trying to land the 3-shots needed to kill someone.

SS is coming to consoles, and joysticks are far more difficult to use to aim precisely. The sway system in SS isn't necessarily terrible, but console players will definitely have a harder time landing shots effectively. Use any section of the above clip of sway in Sandstorm and imagine trying to compensate against that on console...

I've noticed that SS has also introduced a mechanic where sway can be completely eliminated by certain weapon/scope/stance combinations even without a bipod.

Ex. M16A2 with 3x scope, crouched, hold-breath.

M4A1 with red dot, prone, hold-breath.

Any sniper with 4x scope, prone, no hold-breath.

While this may be to compensate against the increased general sway, I feel this mechanic is kind of useless. For one, it makes spending points on a bipod almost redundant, especially with sniper rifles. And it makes the meta of crouching/standing still while holding breath too heavily relied-on. It de-incentivizes pushing hard since defenders can crouch or prone and have absolutely no sway while shooting attackers.

Insurgency had some trace amounts of sway even when prone and holding breath, and was impossible to get rid of sway entirely unless using a bipod. That system makes even more sense for SS over Insurgency given the new TTK and movement systems.

posted in Insurgency: Sandstorm Pre-Order Beta - General Feedback read more

Insurgency 2 had a very realistic system of weapon sway where there was always some sort of sway even when prone, zoomed in and holding breath. In Sandstorm, even laying prone without the bipod on a sniper rifle gives no scope sway when zoomed in - effectively making the purchase of one less enticing. Even assault rifles when zoomed in during prone and holding breath eliminates all sway. I agree in having less sway when crouched and prone, but having zero when holding breath prone in AR's is a tad bit OP. It gives players laser accuracy at range. Reverting back to the all-sway system in Insurgency 2 would work much better IMO.

posted in Insurgency: Sandstorm Pre-Order Beta - General Feedback read more

It's impossible to hold a weapon 100% still in real life. And currently, having zero scope sway when using bipods on LMG's, snipers and even regular weapons when not suppressed or out of breath seems a bit too OP. Someone with a fortified position and bipod should have an advantage over incoming moving enemies, but 100% accuracy and zero sway is a tad bit too much, I feel. Insurgency 2 had sway at all times, so this seems to be an intentional design change.

posted in Insurgency: Sandstorm Pre-Order Beta - General Feedback read more

I realize the removal of scope sway when ADS'ing and holding breath on higher zoomed scopes is likely for the imminent console release due to joysticks, but introducing a little bit like in Insurgency 2 I think benefits the game both in realism and patience. Having to wait to line up your shot in Insurgency 2 with scopes 2x and above made the kill so worth it.

posted in Insurgency: Sandstorm Pre-Order Beta - General Feedback read more

This was implemented in Insurgency, and was curious if it would make a return in Sandstorm. Right now, zooming in with a scope greater than a 2x on a bi-pod deployed weapon has no idle scope sway. Though, I'm sure this may be for consoles since idle scope sway might be too much to compensate for with a joystick at a moments notice.


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