@nickclark89 said in Male Companions in Greedfall?:
@domi said in Male Companions in Greedfall?:
@nickclark89 said in Male Companions in Greedfall?:
@domi said in Male Companions in Greedfall?:
@nickclark89 said in Male Companions in Greedfall?:
Personally what I dont want is what Bioware usually does, treating lgbtq as lesser characters, I want equality content-wise, no more deviant promiscuous bi men that prefer women, no more hide your gays trope as Mass Effect likes to do, no more chivalrous characters as straight like Dragon Age likes to do, PLOT-RELEVANT characters is important too, Bioware likes to do real life gay angst but since Spiders has confirmed that this wont be a problem is all great
just queer romances as full-fledged as the straight ones, I dont usually give a damn about appearance but that's a sweet bonus.
Technomancer was a step in the right direction with Andrew and it was great as first step. Will see how Spiders treats the romance part in this game, I hope everyone is happy and after being disappointed by Bioware over and over again I prefer all bisexual approach (as long as the conversations are not gender neutral, that's important for the immersion)
What on earth does this have to do with how male companions look?
And all bioware bi males are different. Zevran is the only promiscuous one. Fenris is grumpy emo, Anders is a true romantic and a core of the plot, and Iron Bull is a gigantic warrior. Reyes is a rogue who is not particularly promiscuous, and Jaal is straight out of Regency romance. Can't see how's Andrew particularly stands out?
lgbtq players had to fight for Kaidan and Jaal to happen, so they dont count. Zevran and Iron Bull are all promiscuous and deviant. Iron Bull is my favorite m/m romance, but they are both assasin/spy, they can betray you so they are deviant bi trope characters. I dont cound DA2 because of the all bi approach, but both of the characters have their baggage and love Anders and my characters are pro-mages but he killed a bunch of people (and he was promiscous in DA:A)
Gil and Steve are hidden gays in the hold with real gay angst like Dorian (therapy conversion). Kaidan and Jaal we had to fight for them. And Reyes is another bi promiscous with hidden intentions.
I'm just expressing myself out how I want my male romance options, I dont know why are you bothered that much?
I just don't see the relevance o the romance availability to the avatars in a game to the request for at least one male companion who looks hot. Your views on lbgtq romances are way too complicated, and incredibly burdened with multiple conditions that have nothing to do with the games themselves, but with some sort of a conflict of a man vs Industry. You have an axe to grind with Bio, that's probably not the place anyway. Spiders have not even done a bi romance to start with, or at least in the two I played. Ye gods, just because Reyes had a girlfriend before it does not make his promiscuous.
I just want a simple thing: a great looking, hot, awesome, incredible male companion in a Spider's game that can look as great and immediately eye-catching as Niesha, Amelia, Sybil ad Edwina, aka the female characters. Whom that companion romances and if he romances anyone at all, is something that is more secondary, but I certainly way prefer open romances, not gated.
If you do want the males to look younger and hotter than they are in the previous games, well, say so, it's not really some sort of a bad thing, or embarrassing one or whatever. If you can't care less, well, that's fine too. If you are vehemently opposed, well, tell me why...
I'm just telling what I want, that's because I started with "Personally" and doing a comparison with Bioware is only logical because Spiders and BIoware are the only two vg developers that make cinematic gay scenes. My ideas are not complicated and way too much discussed by a lot of gaymers. If you think I think that Reyes is promiscuous because he had a girlfriend you are so wrong lol is the way the character is written and how sexually flirtatious he is. Again, if my views about lgbtq upsets you, dont read them. I'm not going to censore myself and not telling what I want. And even better, dont you dare to think what's better for gay/bi men players.
It's totally ok you want a hot male companion, like I said it's a great bonus. Myself? I just want fair content because I'm so used to scraps that I dont care anymore if he is conventionally hot or not. I think I have left my point clear so this will be my last comment about this.
I am not talking about players at all, and I am all for completely opening every choice to every avatar. It is far easier and exciting for me to role-play games when the romances are not gated, because romance highlight each protagonist's qualities and contribute to his or her stories, and they need not be standard. One of the reasons I do not like gates is because I don't really like an implication that if I am this or that in RL, I should be expected to create such and such character that should behave this or that way, and should like a romance of this type of a character and of this specific gender only. I do not like the weird competitiveness within the player base the gated romances create.
Reyes imo is not promiscuous. He is not indiscriminate, he is not comically sleazy like Zevran (eye-roll), he is not endlessly engaging into innuendo. He (Reyes) certainly does not openly cheat on Ryder or flirts with other companions in front of him/her like some other characters do. His romancing Ryder is among the most romantic in any games. The games manages (at least to me) convey very clearly that after the roof scene Reyes becomes committed to Ryder. It is also politically motivated relationship, pragmatic, love with interest, so we have a rare male character that has his own standing, interests and carrier outside the protagonist's circle. The same was true of Anders. And Dorian.
And they all were hot, which subtracted precisely nothing from the richness of their character development and complicated plots they were involved in.
This is really a very odd discussion to a very simple request for the future. Not the one I was looking for.
In the end of the day, all I want is for one of those awesome Spider artists to really create a lovingly astonishing artistic concept for an incredibly cool to look at male companion that will blow my face off.