About the update..

My framerate got more stable and the mp5 is awesome. Thats about it.
C4 is pretty useless now that you can only throw it like 3 meters!? Useless. Breacher is now a "last spot" choice.
Sprint still gets cancelled when bumping into others or into stuff if you select "toggle sprint".
Almost impossible to read the chat now black borders has been added to the font.
Clearance for grenade launchers and rocket launchers are ridiculous.
So for me the update is worse than before.
And the red stripes that indicate restricted area looks like artwork in a bad way. They overlap and create confusion.
SIGH!

and still the gamma bug where the game gets dark all of a sudden and you have to look towards to ground and hit ESC button to fix it..

you guys never stop crying

@byby said in About the update..:

the mp5 is awesome

Breacher is now a "last spot" choice.

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I7 3770
GTX 970
16GB Ram
Game running on SSD

FPS is more stable right now. 80-140 (60-110 last patch) (Playing on mostly low settings though)

@maa_bunny Yeah, sounds funny but I think the breacher should have more power so to speak. Not only the mp5 as a strong weapon.

@byby Comparing to UZI and MP7 maybe. AKSU and Mk.CQBR are good too. MP5 will be popular since it's new, and it's a iconic weapon. I know some people that will decide to play this game only because it has 3 types of mp5 (A2, A5 and SD version if suppressor applied)

@byby breacher is already good even without the mp5
what you say doesn't even makes sence
you say breacher is NOW a last spot choice and then you say the MP5 is the only good weapon but before this update he had no MP5 and was not last spot choice lol

@byby I think all the breacher guns are fine. MP7, Uzi, and shotguns are all very viable weapons that don't feel underpowered at all - and plenty of people complain that the shotguns are too powerful.

@maa_bunny said in About the update..:

@byby I think all the breacher guns are fine. MP7, Uzi, and shotguns are all very viable weapons that don't feel underpowered at all - and plenty of people complain that the shotguns are too powerful.

With the nerf to Flechette and overall velocity, I think shotguns are in a good spot right now. After all, they really only reward players with pretty good aim while you can just yeet-and-skeet with the MP5s and MP7.

@ne3zy said in About the update..:

you guys never stop crying

To be fair, there are some legit issues. The Gamma one annoys me especially as SS is really dark normally, so sometimes you're wondering why you seemingly can't see shit and then realize you have to pause the game to fix it.

@byby
Isn't there an option to remove the black border from the chat? I swore there was.

I don't have an issue with the Toggle Sprint bug as I don't like Sprint on a toggle.

What do you mean by clearance for grenade launchers and rocket launchers? Like lethality? Armor does have an effect on explosives (and probably the only reason to buy it, honestly). Even Frag Grenades are extremely lethal if you have no armor, as I've learned the hard way lmao.

How in the hell does the red restricted area likes look like artwork? Huh?

C4 is by no means "useless". If NWI nerfed the throwing distance, that's probably for the better. It's not a frag grenade lmao. You can also place it on walls and shit.

@ne3zy said in About the update..:

you guys never stop crying

I lile how when you say he is crying when there are clear problems with the update. Some serious bugs left over that weren't even addressed in the update.

Not to mention you have a post in technical where you are "crying" about flashes on your screen. My gun often will not load making the game unplayable and I made a post to "cry" about that also.

The devs don't need you to defend their honor. They know how it goes when people passionate about their games arent happy. Let people complain so problems can be addressed.

@smoussie Yeah that came out wrong. What I mean is the breacher role isnt good enough just because they added the mp5. The others are great too. But all of the breachers weapons are short to medium range.

@marksmanmax About the rocket and grenade launcher clearance. Its when firing over a hilltop or around a corner. Even when it seems more than clear it will explode in your face. And the restricted area was all over a map, cant remember which one... but they crossed over eachother and out of the map and shit... looked like modern art ๐Ÿ˜ƒ And I completely agree with shotguns and aim ๐Ÿ™‚ But honestly, I cant feel the diff with flechette rounds. Still love the shotgun.
I have my single/auto switch on left ctrl, so I toggle sprint to have my pinky free. On big maps you sprint a lot. Dont want my pinky pressing a key half the time.

@ne3zy Also came out wrong... I mean its a powerful weapon in close and medium quarters, so its a good addition, but its not enough for the breacher imo. But I think they added c4 able to stick to trucks now... that would be awesome now the throwing distance is shortened.

C4 is fine, before the patch it was too powerful and let to people "cheesing" with it.

Sprint gets canceled if you hit a physical object. That also includes players.

No idea what you are talking about. Chat is way more readable now

Clearance is fine to me. Before that it was too easy to "nootube" with them

Breacher is one of the strongest classes. Especially if you figure out where the strong points of the classes are. From my experience, you perform the best as a breacher if you actively defend or attack the actual objective area or the border from it. You have access to weapons that do very well in CQB. So when I play Breacher I will try to get into a good position to defend a objective, or use the speed and the high ROF of the SGM's to get into the OBJ and cause Havok.

@mefirst Nah, It needs to be throw a tad longer imo. Not as long as before, but slighty longer than now.
If you choose "hold" to sprint, then it doesnt get cancelled when hitting objects or players. Thats my beef ๐Ÿ™‚
Clearance is not fine. Sometimes when I aim about 50cm over an object or hill, it will explode in my face. Same goes for corners. Not cool. And if you fire rpg f.ex and get shot, it cancels the rocket!? Not cool either.
I love the breacher class as I love the shotgun. I just think it needs further throw distance with c4. And mp5 is too expensive to gear up. Other than that Im actually ok with the update apart from the obvious flaws (which I know will be corrected).
Im not a newbie who wants to change the game into what its not, but have 1400H in source and 650H in sandstorm.
So much are probably old habbits ๐Ÿ™‚ And also a red line I think should be followed a bit more.
But clearly its a matter of playing style and opinions.

@byby said in About the update..:

@smoussie Yeah that came out wrong. What I mean is the breacher role isnt good enough just because they added the mp5. The others are great too. But all of the breachers weapons are short to medium range.

Personally, I think that should be the downside of Breacher. You're not Rifleman or Advisor. I think the extra CQB firepower is balanced by the expensive of long-range effectiveness.

If you want more long-range effectiveness, go Rifleman as the class has no cap on players using it. If you want a class that's more in-between Rifleman and Breacher, I think Advisor fits that role. He tends to have more close-to-medium range weapons, with some long-range options like the L85 or SVD.

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@byby said in About the update..:

But all of the breachers weapons are short to medium range.

Yes. That's why the class is called "breacher" - they are close quarters specialists. Close range is what they are supposed to do best.

Also the restricted zone markings arenโ€™t even correct. On insurgent push for refinery, when the insurgents get to attack the C point, the defending securityโ€™s maps are wrong. They show that you can go past that green hut across from c and all the way to the catwalks behind it but the restriction zone starts 20m right in front of c

@ne3zy said in About the update..:

you guys never stop crying

well the game keeps being patched deeper into a broken state, so did you want people to celebrate the pain?